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Wyly

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Hola amigos:

Soy nuevo en el foro, y me gustaría que me informaraís sobre el siguiente tema, pusto que también soy nuevo en el mundo de las caravanas.

Estoy interesado en comprarme una caravana marca Burstner, modelo Trecento 525 TL o 460 TS, la primera según el catalogo tiene una tara de 1240 Kg y la segunda una tara de 1100 Kg. El vehículo que tengo para arrastar es un Mercedes Benz C220CDI Sportcoupe 150CV,automatico, el cual tiene una tara de 1535 Kg. la MMA es de 1970 Kg y la MMR es de 1500 Kg.

Me gustaria que me aconsejaraís sobre este tema, ya que vosotros soís más entendidos en el tema, a nivel de seguridad y los pesos.

muchas gracias, espero vuestra información.
Wyly
 
Ante todo bienvenido Wyly. Has de tener en cuenta, para remolcar , el PMA de la caravana. Por las taras que pones deben andar por los 1.400 kg.
Personalmente pienso que el coche no es el mas seguro, ya que los pesos son muy parecidos , lo ideal es que la cv pesara llena)pma) un 20 % menos que el peso en vacio (tara).
La segunda seria más segura que la primera.
 
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</B>The towing capability for the Mercedes-Benz C - 220 CDI
with a Burstner Trecento 525 TL:

Your Burstner is 35 kg too heavy for this car!!!!
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Performance on levelled roads
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Top speed
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Usability 6th gear
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Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions
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Driving on motorway slopes
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Driving on steep roads

Mercedes-Benz C - 220 CDI (110 kW/148 bhp)
Date of manufacture: march 2004 - march 2007
According to our data (in the Netherlands) this Burstner is 35 kg too heavy for the Mercedes-Benz. Please check the maximum towing limit in your own country.

98%
1535 kg 1565 kg
The match between car and caravan is plausible in accordance with a mix of European standards. However, according to the British Towing Code the percentage (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) is 98%.

The towing performances of this Mercedes-Benz with your Burstner are perfect (performance index = 101 km/h or 63 mph).

You may expect very lively performances from this outfit. On flat roads you can come along adequately, in which case top gear is applicable under favourable circumstances.

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

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Possible top speeds

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Possible top speed in windless conditions and head wind force 3 Top speed in 3rd gear is 111 km/h (69 mph) and in head wind it will be 111 km/h (69 mph).Top speed in 4th gear is 131 km/h (81 mph) and in head wind it will be 122 km/h (76 mph).Top speed in 5th gear is 126 km/h (78 mph) and in head wind it will be 112 km/h (70 mph).Top speed in 6th gear is 116 km/h (72 mph) and in headwind it will be 92 km/h (57 mph).

Top speed or speed at 3360 rpm (= 80% of max. power revolution) Speed in 1st gear is 29 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 29 km/h.Speed in 2nd gear is 52 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 52 km/h.Speed in 3rd gear is 82 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 82 km/h.Speed in 4th gear is 116 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 116 km/h.Speed in 5th gear is 126 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 112 km/h.Speed in 6th gear is 116 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 92 km/h.

Acceleration and take over

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Acceleration 0 - 80 km/h (0 - 50 mph) with caravan in 12.6 sec. (solo: 6.8 sec.) 0 - 100 km/h (0 - 62 mph) with caravan in 20.1 sec. (solo: 9.4 sec.) 0 - 120 km/h (0 - 75 mph) with caravan in 38.3 sec. (solo: 13.6 sec.)

Acceleration 70 - 90 km/h (44 - 56 mph) flexibility As fast as possible (through the gears) 5.7 sec. In 3rd gear 5.7 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is good.
In 4th gear 8.5 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is fairly good.
In 5th gear 14.9 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is moderate.


Usability 6th gear at 80 km/h (50 mph)

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Power at 80 km/h in 6th gear (1526 rpm)55 kWPower needed to drive 80 km/h40 kWAcceleration 80-90 km/h in 6th gear18.3 secMaximum head wind in 6th gear at 80 km/hhead wind force 4 (21 km/h)Maximum gradient in the 6th gear at 80 km/h1%

Minimum speed - at maximal torque - at 3360 rev - at max rev in the 1st gear 16 km/h - 17 km/h - 29 km/h - 40 km/hin the 2nd gear 28 km/h - 31 km/h - 52 km/h - 71 km/h in the 3th gear 45 km/h - 49 km/h - 82 km/h - 112 km/hin the 4th gear 64 km/h - 69 km/h - 116 km/h - 160 km/hin the 5th gear 81 km/h - 87 km/h - 146 km/h - 201 km/hin the 6th gear 97 km/h - 105 km/h - 176 km/h - 242 km/h

Driving on motorway slopes

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Top speed on a gradient of 5% (1 to 20) In the 1st gear: 39 km/h (24 mph) at 4489 rpm and 29 km/h at 3360 rpmIn the 2nd gear: 70 km/h (44 mph) at 4551 rpm and 52 km/h at 3360 rpmIn the 3th gear: 101 km/h (63 mph) at 4154 rpm and 82 km/h at 3360 rpmIn the 4th gear: 96 km/h (60 mph) at 2779 rpm The 5th gear isn't applicable at a gradient of 5% (1 to 20).

Drive off uphill

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ElevationDrive off uphill in the first gear0 m.20.7%500 m.20.3% 1000 m.19.9% 1500 m.19.5% 2000 m.19.1% 2500 m.18.7%

Driving on steep roads

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Top speed on a gradient of 12% (1 to 8) 1st gear 39 km/h (24 mph) 2nd gear 67 km/h (42 mph) 3rd gear isn't applicable 4th gear isn't applicable 5th gearisn't applicable

ElevationDrive at 20 km/h
(12 mph) in
1st gear
Drive at 40 km/h
(25 mph) in
2nd gear
0 m40.9%21.6%500 m40.2%21.2%1000 m39.6%20.9%1500 m39%20.6%2000 m38.4%20.3%2500 m37.8%19.9%

Check data

Car make and modelMercedes-Benz C - 220 CDIYear of issuemarch 2004 - march 2007Power110 kW (148 bhp) at 4200 rpmTorque340 Nm (251 lb/ft) at (or from) 2000 rpmKerbweight (may differ in the UK)1565 kg and 'ballasted' with 250 kgTyres205 / 55 R 16TransmissionManual (or automatic without torque converter)
6 speed
CaravanBurstner Trecento 525 TLActual laden caravan weight1535 kg (car towing limit is 1500 kg)The airflow is: average (height = 2.54 m and width = 2.30 m)Gross Train weight (car+caravan)3350 kg</B></B>

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Este es el resultado con la 525 Tl
 
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</B>The towing capability for the Mercedes-Benz C - 220 CDI
with a Burstner Trecento 460 TS:
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Performance on levelled roads
4sterren.gif
Top speed
2sterren.gif
Usability 6th gear
4sterren.gif
Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions
5sterren.gif
Drive off uphill
5sterren.gif
Driving on motorway slopes
5sterren.gif
Driving on steep roads

Mercedes-Benz C - 220 CDI (110 kW/148 bhp)
Date of manufacture: march 2004 - march 2007
87%
1360 kg 1565 kg
The match between car and caravan is perfect in accordance with a mix of European standards. However, according to the British Towing Code the percentage (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) is 87%.

The towing performances of this Mercedes-Benz with your Burstner are perfect (performance index = 101 km/h or 63 mph).

You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads you can come along adequately, in which case top gear is applicable under favourable circumstances.

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

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Possible top speeds

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Possible top speed in windless conditions and head wind force 3 Top speed in 3rd gear is 111 km/h (69 mph) and in head wind it will be 111 km/h (69 mph).Top speed in 4th gear is 131 km/h (81 mph) and in head wind it will be 122 km/h (76 mph).Top speed in 5th gear is 127 km/h (79 mph) and in head wind it will be 113 km/h (70 mph).Top speed in 6th gear is 116 km/h (72 mph) and in headwind it will be 94 km/h (58 mph).

Top speed or speed at 3360 rpm (= 80% of max. power revolution) Speed in 1st gear is 29 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 29 km/h.Speed in 2nd gear is 52 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 52 km/h.Speed in 3rd gear is 82 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 82 km/h.Speed in 4th gear is 116 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 116 km/h.Speed in 5th gear is 127 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 113 km/h.Speed in 6th gear is 116 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 94 km/h.

Acceleration and take over

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Acceleration 0 - 80 km/h (0 - 50 mph) with caravan in 12.1 sec. (solo: 6.8 sec.) 0 - 100 km/h (0 - 62 mph) with caravan in 19 sec. (solo: 9.4 sec.) 0 - 120 km/h (0 - 75 mph) with caravan in 35.8 sec. (solo: 13.6 sec.)

Acceleration 70 - 90 km/h (44 - 56 mph) flexibility As fast as possible (through the gears) 5.4 sec. In 3rd gear 5.4 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is very good.
In 4th gear 8 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is fairly good.
In 5th gear 13.9 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is moderate.


Usability 6th gear at 80 km/h (50 mph)

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Power at 80 km/h in 6th gear (1526 rpm)55 kWPower needed to drive 80 km/h39 kWAcceleration 80-90 km/h in 6th gear16.5 secMaximum head wind in 6th gear at 80 km/hhead wind force 4 (22 km/h)Maximum gradient in the 6th gear at 80 km/h1%

Minimum speed - at maximal torque - at 3360 rev - at max rev in the 1st gear 16 km/h - 17 km/h - 29 km/h - 40 km/hin the 2nd gear 28 km/h - 31 km/h - 52 km/h - 71 km/h in the 3th gear 45 km/h - 49 km/h - 82 km/h - 112 km/hin the 4th gear 64 km/h - 69 km/h - 116 km/h - 160 km/hin the 5th gear 81 km/h - 87 km/h - 146 km/h - 201 km/hin the 6th gear 97 km/h - 105 km/h - 176 km/h - 242 km/h

Driving on motorway slopes

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Top speed on a gradient of 5% (1 to 20) In the 1st gear: 39 km/h (24 mph) at 4489 rpm and 29 km/h at 3360 rpmIn the 2nd gear: 70 km/h (44 mph) at 4551 rpm and 52 km/h at 3360 rpmIn the 3th gear: 103 km/h (64 mph) at 4236 rpm and 82 km/h at 3360 rpmIn the 4th gear: 99 km/h (62 mph) at 2866 rpm The 5th gear isn't applicable at a gradient of 5% (1 to 20).

Drive off uphill

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ElevationDrive off uphill in the first gear0 m.22.2%500 m.21.7% 1000 m.21.3% 1500 m.20.9% 2000 m.20.5% 2500 m.20%

Driving on steep roads

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Top speed on a gradient of 12% (1 to 8) 1st gear 39 km/h (24 mph) 2nd gear 69 km/h (43 mph) 3rd gear 62 km/h (39 mph) 4th gear isn't applicable 5th gearisn't applicable

ElevationDrive at 20 km/h
(12 mph) in
1st gear
Drive at 40 km/h
(25 mph) in
2nd gear
0 m43.2%22.8%500 m42.5%22.5%1000 m41.9%22.2%1500 m41.2%21.8%2000 m40.6%21.5%2500 m39.9%21.1%

Check data

Car make and modelMercedes-Benz C - 220 CDIYear of issuemarch 2004 - march 2007Power110 kW (148 bhp) at 4200 rpmTorque340 Nm (251 lb/ft) at (or from) 2000 rpmKerbweight (may differ in the UK)1565 kg and 'ballasted' with 250 kgTyres205 / 55 R 16TransmissionManual (or automatic without torque converter)
6 speed
CaravanBurstner Trecento 460 TSActual laden caravan weight1360 kg (car towing limit is 1500 kg)The airflow is: average (height = 2.54 m and width = 2.30 m)Gross Train weight (car+caravan)3175 kg</B></B>

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Este es el resultado con la 460 TS, espero que puedas ver la diferencia.
 
Muchas gracias por vuestra información.
Ya veo que por lo que me indicaís tengo que comprar la 460TS.

Gracias. Wyly
 
ya te a informado muy bien xosero,pero bienvenido al foro.saludos desde galicia.
 
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