Pesos y seguridad conjunto

[Ruter(o)s]

Hola viendo otro hilo he pensado que podriamos poner los towing report What TowCar.com - All about Towcars and Towing Caravans y vemos los conjuntos que llevamos y como se comportan.
Podria ser util para la gente que se plantea comprar una caravana para ver sus pesos/seguridad

Towing Report

The towing capability of the Hyundai Terracan - 2.9 CRDi (120 kW of 163 hp, date of manufacture: april 2004 - september 2007) towing a Fendt Saphir 510 TFK:

Weight ratio:

= 61% - Speedindex:

= 111 km/h - Max steep incline:

= 36%Performance on levelled roads

Top speed

Usability 5th gear

Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions

Drive off uphill

Driving on motorway slopes

Driving on steep roads

Outfit match

61%

1508 kg

2422 kg​

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The ratio for the Hyundai and Fendt is 61%. (According to the British Towing Code -loaded caravan/kerbweight towcar- this percentage is 69%.)
Conclusion is that The match between car and caravan is perfect.
TOTAL MMA= 3930 kg REQUIERE B+E

 

[Ruteros]

espero que lo que dice esa pagina sea un poco de verdad porque miedo me da ir con casi 4000 kilos en fin ya veremos

 

[mikicastell]

Esto dá con el mío.
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[mikicastell]

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[mikicastell]

Otia,,,,,,,,,,, como se pone el resultado?????????

 

[Jose Luis]

Ruter(o)s..... hay que poner los pesos reales........

El mio con pesos reales....

 

[aurresku]

Por cierto, ¿os habéis dado cuenta de que desde hace un tiempo ha cambiado el diseño del whattowcar?

A la hora de confirmar coche y caravana, hay una pantalla previa donde confirman los dos vehículos y después pulsamos "Hit it".
Ahí podemos seleccionar los resultados en millas por hora, o kilómetros por hora. Aparte de eso, la diferencia es que seleccionando mph el dato de porcentaje se calcula según el estándar británico, esto es:

Caravana cargada frente a peso del coche en vacío.

Seleccionando km por hora, el porcentaje se obtiene:

Caravana cargada frente a coche cargado.

La diferencia está clara. Seleccionando km/h el dato de porcentaje siempre será más favorable. Pero claro, hay que tenerlo en cuenta.

Yo, personalmente, prefiero calcular el porcentaje con el peso del coche en vacío.

 

[P@CO]

Bueno pues hay van los datos de mi conjunto. No cobro comisiones y por eso creedme si os digo que este conjunto es muy pero que muy estable

Towing Report

The towing capability of the Kia Sorento - 2.5 CRDi VGT (125 kW of 170 hp, date of manufacture: october 2006 - up to now) towing a Knaus Sudwind 500 FU:

Weight ratio:

= 60% - Speedindex:

= 111 km/h - Max steep incline:

= 39%Performance on levelled roads

Top speed

Usability 5th gear

Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions

Drive off uphill

Driving on motorway slopes

Driving on steep roads

Outfit match

60%

1405 kg

2315 kg​

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The ratio for the Kia and Knaus is 60%. (According to the British Towing Code -loaded caravan/kerbweight towcar- this percentage is 68%.)
Conclusion is that The match between car and caravan is perfect. Towing performance on levelled roads

You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, in which case top gear is applicable in most cases.

Possible top speeds

Possible top speed in windless conditions and head wind force 3Top speed in 3rd gear is 105 km/h and in head wind it will be 105 km/h.Top speed in 4th gear is 140 km/h and in head wind it will be 131 km/h.Top speed in 5th gear is 139 km/h and in head wind it will be 126 km/h.


Top speed or speed at 3040 rpm (= 80% of max. power revolution)Speed in 1st gear is 26 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 26 km/h.Speed in 2nd gear is 49 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 49 km/h.Speed in 3rd gear is 77 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 77 km/h.Speed in 4th gear is 112 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 112 km/h.Speed in 5th gear is 136 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 126 km/h.


Acceleration and take over

Acceleration0 - 80 km/h with caravan in 13.5 sec. (solo: 8.3 sec.)0 - 100 km/h with caravan in 20.7 sec. (solo: 11.7 sec.)0 - 120 km/h with caravan in 35.2 sec. (solo: 17.3 sec.)

Acceleration 70 - 90 km/h flexibilityAs fast as possible (through the gears) 5.8 sec.In 3rd gear 5.8 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is good.
In 4th gear 9 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is fairly good.
In 5th gear 14.5 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is moderate.


Usability 5th gear at 80 km/h

Power at 80 km/h in 5th gear (1789 rpm) 78 kW Power needed to drive 80 km/h 37 kW Acceleration 80-90 km/h in 5th gear 7.2 sec Maximum head wind in 5th gear at 80 km/h head wind force 7 (58 km/h) Maximum gradient in the 5th gear at 80 km/h 3%


Minimum speed at maximal torque at 3040 rev at max revin the 1st gear 16 km/h 17 km/h 26 km/h 35 km/hin the 2nd gear 30 km/h 32 km/h 49 km/h 67 km/h in the 3th gear 47 km/h 51 km/h 77 km/h 106 km/hin the 4th gear 68 km/h 74 km/h 112 km/h 154 km/hin the 5th gear 83 km/h 89 km/h 136 km/h 187 km/h Towing performance in mountainous regions

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

Driving on motorway slopes

Top speed on a gradient of 5%In the 1st gear: 34 km/h at 4049 rpm and 26 km/h at 3040 rpmIn the 2nd gear: 66 km/h at 4126 rpm and 49 km/h at 3040 rpmIn the 3th gear: 104 km/h at 4093 rpm and 77 km/h at 3040 rpmIn the 4th gear: 97 km/h at 2629 rpm The 5th gear isn't applicable at a gradient of 5%.


Drive off uphill

Elevation Drive off uphill in the first gear In lowgear 0 m. 22.5% 64.8% 500 m. 22.1% 63.8% 1000 m. 21.6% 62.7% 1500 m. 21.2% 61.6% 2000 m. 20.8% 60.6% 2500 m. 20.4% 59.5%

Driving on steep roads

Top speed on a gradient of 12% 1st gear 34 km/h 2nd gear 66 km/h 3rd gear isn't applicable 4th gear isn't applicable 5th gearisn't applicable

Elevation Drive at 20 km/h
in 1st gear Drive at 40 km/h
in 2nd gear 0 m 40.8% 20.1% 500 m 40.2% 19.8% 1000 m 39.6% 19.5% 1500 m 39% 19.2% 2000 m 38.4% 18.9% 2500 m 37.8% 18.6%

Check data

Car make and modelKia Sorento - 2.5 CRDi VGTYear of issue (or similar)october 2006 - up to nowPower125 kW (170 hp) at 3800 rpmTorque392 Nm at (or from) 2000 rpmKerbweight (may differ in your country)2065 kg and 'ballasted' with 250 kgTyres245 / 70 R 16TransmissionManual (or automatic without torque converter)
5 speed (and low gear)
Car towing limit3000 kg (Noseweight 120 kg)Gross Train weight (car+caravan)3720 kg (Max = unknown kg)CaravanKnaus Sudwind 500 FUActual laden caravan weight1405 kg (MTPLM 1500 kg)The airflow is: moderate (height = 2.54 m and width = 2.29 m)

 

[Ruteros]

Otia,,,,,,,,,,, como se pone el resultado?????????

Selecciona el texto con imagenes y copiar. Luego en esta ventana pegar

 

[Ruteros]

Ruter(o)s..... hay que poner los pesos reales........

¿Como se cuales son?

 

[rocinante]

Towing Report

The towing capability of the Kia Carnival II - 2.9 CRDi (106 kW of 144 hp, date of manufacture: january 2002 - june 2006) towing a Adria Altea 390 PS:

Weight ratio:

= 31% - Speedindex:

= 110 km/h - </B>Max steep incline:

= 14%Performance on levelled roads

Top speed

Usability 5th gear

Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions

Drive off uphill

Driving on motorway slopes

Driving on steep roads

Outfit match

31%

1000 kg

3070 kg​

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The ratio for the Kia and Adria is 31%. (According to the British Towing Code -loaded caravan/kerbweight towcar- this percentage is 35%.)
Conclusion is that The match between car and caravan is perfect. Towing performance on levelled roads

You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, in which case top gear is applicable in all cases.

Possible top speeds

 

[rocinante]

Importante para la seguridad de remolque es la relación entre el peso de coches y caravanas. La relación de los Kia y Adria es el 31%. (De acuerdo con el Código Británico de remolque cargado-caravana / kerbweight towcar, este porcentaje es del 35%.)
La conclusión es que el partido entre coche y caravana es perfecto. Remolque nivelado el rendimiento en las carreteras



esto pone en el traductor... que lio !!!!!!!!!

 

[sama]

Towing Report

The towing capability of the Kia Carnival II - 2.9 CRDi (106 kW of 144 hp, date of manufacture: january 2002 - june 2006) towing a Adria Altea 390 PS:

Weight ratio:

= 31% - Speedindex:

= 110 km/h - </B>Max steep incline:

= 14%Performance on levelled roads

Top speed

Usability 5th gear

Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions

Drive off uphill

Driving on motorway slopes

Driving on steep roads

Outfit match

31%

1000 kg

3070 kg​

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The ratio for the Kia and Adria is 31%. (According to the British Towing Code -loaded caravan/kerbweight towcar- this percentage is 35%.)
Conclusion is that The match between car and caravan is perfect. Towing performance on levelled roads

You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, in which case top gear is applicable in all cases.

Possible top speeds

Joer lo tuyo es el conjunto mejor equilibrado en pesos que he visto. Cuando se recomienda que la caravana cargada debe de ser como máximo el 80% del coche en vacío para ir seguros, en tu caso la caravana cargada es el 35% del coche vacío. ESO SÍ QUE ES SEGURIDAD. Mi más sincera enhorabuena.

Un saludo

 

[rhisto]

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Towing Report

Seat and SunRoller

The towing capability for the Seat Alhambra - 2.0 TDI
with a SunRoller Jazz 49:

Performance on levelled roads

Top speed

Usability 6th gear

Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions

Drive off uphill

Driving on motorway slopes

Driving on steep roads

Seat Alhambra - 2.0 TDI (103 kW/138 bhp)
Date of manufacture: november 2005 - up to now

62% ​

1138 kg 1840 kg ​

The match between car and caravan is perfect in accordance with a mix of European standards. However, according to the British Towing Code the percentage (loaded caravan / kerbweight tow car) is 62%.

The towing performances of this Seat with your SunRoller are perfect (performance index = 107 km/h or 67 mph).

You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, in which case top gear is applicable in most cases.

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

67 ​

19% ​

More in detail

Possible top speeds

Possible top speed in windless conditions and head wind force 3Top speed in 3rd gear is 65 mph (105 km/h) and in head wind it will be 65 mph (105 km/h).Top speed in 4th gear is 85 mph (136 km/h) and in head wind it will be 79 mph (127 km/h).Top speed in 5th gear is 85 mph (136 km/h) and in head wind it will be 77 mph (124 km/h).Top speed in 6th gear is 80 mph (128 km/h) and in headwind it will be 71 mph (114 km/h).

Top speed or speed at 3200 rpm (= 80% of max. power revolution)Speed in 1st gear is 17 mph and in head wind (force 3) it will be 17 mph.Speed in 2nd gear is 30 mph and in head wind (force 3) it will be 30 mph.Speed in 3rd gear is 48 mph and in head wind (force 3) it will be 48 mph.Speed in 4th gear is 65 mph and in head wind (force 3) it will be 65 mph.Speed in 5th gear is 79 mph and in head wind (force 3) it will be 77 mph.Speed in 6th gear is 80 mph and in head wind (force 3) it will be 71 mph.

Acceleration and take over

Acceleration0 - 50 mph (0 - 80 km/h) with caravan in 13.3 sec. (solo: 8.4 sec.)0 - 62 mph (0 - 100 km/h) with caravan in 20.7 sec. (solo: 12 sec.)0 - 75 mph (0 - 120 km/h) with caravan in 35.9 sec. (solo: 17.8 sec.)

Acceleration 44 - 56 mph (70 - 90 km/h) flexibilityAs fast as possible (through the gears) 5.9 sec.In 3rd gear 5.9 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is good.
In 4th gear 8 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is fairly good.
In 5th gear 11 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is satisfactory.


Usability 6th gear at 50 mph (80 km/h)

Power at 50 mph in 6th gear (1687 rpm) 62 kW Power needed to drive 50 mph 34 kW Acceleration 50-56 mph in 6th gear 9.4 sec Maximum head wind in 6th gear at 50 mph head wind force 6 (43 km/h) Maximum gradient in the 6th gear at 50 mph 2%

Minimum speed - at maximal torque - at 3200 rev - at max revin the 1st gear 9 mph - 10 mph - 17 mph - 23 mphin the 2nd gear 17 mph - 18 mph - 30 mph - 42 mph in the 3th gear 27 mph - 29 mph - 48 mph - 66 mphin the 4th gear 37 mph - 39 mph - 65 mph - 89 mphin the 5th gear 44 mph - 47 mph - 79 mph - 108 mphin the 6th gear 53 mph - 56 mph - 94 mph - 130 mph

Driving on motorway slopes

Top speed on a gradient of 5% (1 to 20)In the 1st gear: 22 mph (36 km/h) at 4257 rpm and 17 mph at 3200 rpmIn the 2nd gear: 41 mph (66 km/h) at 4322 rpm and 30 mph at 3200 rpmIn the 3th gear: 64 mph (103 km/h) at 4279 rpm and 48 mph at 3200 rpmIn the 4th gear: 62 mph (100 km/h) at 3065 rpm In the 5th gear: 50 mph (36 km/h) at 2046 rpm


Drive off uphill

Elevation Drive off uphill in the first gear
0 m. 19.9%
500 m. 19.5%
1000 m. 19.1%
1500 m. 18.7%
2000 m. 18.4%
2500 m. 18%


Driving on steep roads

Top speed on a gradient of 12% (1 to 1st gear 22 mph (36 km/h) 2nd gear 41 mph (66 km/h) 3rd gear isn't applicable 4th gear isn't applicable 5th gearisn't applicable

Elevation Drive at 12 mph
in 1st gear Drive at 25 mph
in 2nd gear 0 m 39.5% 20.4% 500 m 38.9% 20.1% 1000 m 38.3% 19.8% 1500 m 37.7% 19.5% 2000 m 37.1% 19.2% 2500 m 36.6% 18.9%

Check data

Car make and modelSeat Alhambra - 2.0 TDIYear of issuenovember 2005 - up to nowPower138 bhp (103 kW) at 4000 rpmTorque229 lb/ft (310 Nm) at (or from) 1900 rpmKerbweight (may differ in the UK)1840 kg and 'ballasted' with 250 kgTyres215 / 55 R 16TransmissionManual (or automatic without torque converter)
6 speedCaravanSunRoller Jazz 49Actual laden caravan weight1138 kg (car towing limit is 2000 kg)The airflow is: moderate (height = 2.56 m and width = 2.23 m)Gross Train weight (car+caravan)3228 kg




User Reviews

The Seat towing a Sterling Europa 520 (1400) kg reviewed by Craig Fox:

= 66%

= 106 km/u

= 17%I have towed the Sterling Europa 520 with the older Alhambra ( 54 plate diesel) and the newer 140bhp diesel models and found both to be able to cope with the caravan very easily. Good bottom end torque and a usable 5th gear on motorways. Recommend the outfit setup to anyone.

The Seat towing a Ace Jubilee Courier (1469) kg reviewed by Christian Williams:

= 70%

= 106 km/u

= 16%I have towed with this outfit with excellant results, the car has no end of power (1.9TDi 130bhp) and boot space with 5 seats in place, and I get 30mpg. The only this you have to be careful of is traction pulling away or climbing. The van is very stable and will sit at 60mph on the motorway, the only thing it's missing is alloys which would be easier when fitting the wheel clamps.


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Towing Report

The towing capability of the Toyota Verso - 2.2 D-4D (100 kW of 136 hp, date of manufacture: october 2006 - up to now) towing a Vimara 400 T:

Weight ratio:

= 53% - Speedindex:

= 104 km/h - </B>Max steep incline:

= 24%Performance on levelled roads

Top speed

Usability 6th gear

Acceleration and take overPerformance in mountainous regions

Drive off uphill

Driving on motorway slopes

Driving on steep roads

Outfit match

53%

1031 kg

1820 kg​

Important for safe towing is the weight ratio between Car and Caravan. The ratio for the Toyota and Vimara is 53%. (According to the British Towing Code -loaded caravan/kerbweight towcar- this percentage is 66%.)
Conclusion is that The match between car and caravan is perfect. Towing performance on levelled roads

You may expect excellent performances from this outfit. On flat roads it's easy to come along, in which case top gear is applicable in most cases.

Possible top speeds

Possible top speed in windless conditions and head wind force 3 Top speed in 3rd gear is 99 km/h and in head wind it will be 99 km/h.Top speed in 4th gear is 128 km/h and in head wind it will be 121 km/h.Top speed in 5th gear is 133 km/h and in head wind it will be 119 km/h.Top speed in 6th gear is 121 km/h and in headwind it will be 105 km/h.

Top speed or speed at 3120 rpm (= 80% of max. power revolution) Speed in 1st gear is 25 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 25 km/h.Speed in 2nd gear is 46 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 46 km/h.Speed in 3rd gear is 73 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 73 km/h.Speed in 4th gear is 101 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 101 km/h.Speed in 5th gear is 129 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 119 km/h.Speed in 6th gear is 121 km/h and in head wind (force 3) it will be 105 km/h.

Acceleration and take over

Acceleration 0 - 80 km/h with caravan in 11.8 sec. (solo: 7.3 sec.) 0 - 100 km/h with caravan in 20.3 sec. (solo: 11.1 sec.) 0 - 120 km/h with caravan in 34.5 sec. (solo: 15.1 sec.)

Acceleration 70 - 90 km/h flexibility As fast as possible (through the gears) 5.1 sec. In 3rd gear 5.1 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is very good.
In 4th gear 6.9 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is good.
In 5th gear 11.5 sec. Tractive power (pick-up) is satisfactory.


Usability 6th gear at 80 km/h

Power at 80 km/h in 6th gear (1610 rpm)56 kWPower needed to drive 80 km/h35 kWAcceleration 80-90 km/h in 6th gear11.5 secMaximum head wind in 6th gear at 80 km/hhead wind force 4 (29 km/h)Maximum gradient in the 6th gear at 80 km/h2%

Minimum speedat maximal torqueat 3120 revat max rev</B>in the 1st gear15 km/h 16 km/h 25 km/h34 km/hin the 2nd gear 27 km/h 30 km/h 46 km/h 64 km/h in the 3th gear 43 km/h 47 km/h 73 km/h 100 km/hin the 4th gear 60 km/h 65 km/h 101 km/h 139 km/hin the 5th gear 76 km/h 83 km/h 129 km/h 177 km/hin the 6th gear 92 km/h 99 km/h 155 km/h 213 km/hTowing performance in mountainous regions

On motorway inclines you will be able not only to come along, but be the first at the top. On steep roads you have more than sufficient power to keep going. On hill starts there will be more than enough power to get going, provided the wheels have traction.

Driving on motorway slopes

Top speed on a gradient of 5% In the 1st gear: 33 km/h at 4108 rpm and 25 km/h at 3120 rpmIn the 2nd gear: 63 km/h at 4240 rpm and 46 km/h at 3120 rpmIn the 3th gear: 96 km/h at 4114 rpm and 73 km/h at 3120 rpmIn the 4th gear: 107 km/h at 3313 rpm and 101 km/h at 3120 rpmThe 5th gear isn't applicable at a gradient of 5%.

Drive off uphill

ElevationDrive off uphill in the first gear0 m.24.9%500 m.24.5% 1000 m.24% 1500 m.23.5% 2000 m.23.1% 2500 m.22.6%

Driving on steep roads

Top speed on a gradient of 12% 1st gear 33 km/h 2nd gear 62 km/h 3rd gear 74 km/h 4th gear isn't applicable 5th gearisn't applicable

ElevationDrive at 20 km/h
in 1st gearDrive at 40 km/h
in 2nd gear0 m47.9%24.6%500 m47.2%24.2%1000 m46.5%23.9%1500 m45.8%23.5%2000 m45%23.1%2500 m44.3%22.8%

Check data

Car make and modelToyota Verso - 2.2 D-4DYear of issue (or similar)october 2006 - up to nowPower100 kW (136 hp) at 3900 rpmTorque310 Nm at (or from) 2000 rpmKerbweight (may differ in your country)1570 kg and 'ballasted' with 250 kgTyres205 / 55 R 16TransmissionManual (or automatic without torque converter)
6 speedCar towing limit1300 kg (Noseweight 52 kg)Gross Train weight (car+caravan)2851 kg (Max = unknown kg)CaravanVimara 400 TActual laden caravan weight1031 kg (MTPLM 1100 kg)The airflow is: bad (height = 2.52 m and width = 2.17 m)</B>


User Reviews

The Toyota towing a Bailey Ranger 500/5 (1244) kg reviewed by j Philps:

= 67%

= 106 km/u

= 22%Verso tows this van perfectly. Low noseweight of 55kgs on the car, but if you make sure you get the noseweight correct it is a perfect tow. Plenty of power from from the 2.2td, only drawback is as with any front wheel drive a lack of traction towing off a wet field. Other wise a great towing outfit.

The Toyota towing a Bailey Ranger 550/6 (125 kg reviewed by G Barber:

= 68%

= 109 km/u

= 21%Great match, acceleration good as is hills and inclines, only drawback is low nose weight on the Toyota fitted towbar of 60Kgs make sure you check this and you will get a great tow


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[Jose Luis]

¿Como se cuales son?

... cuando te den la caravana, la llenas de trastos y te vas a una bascula municipal... 1€ tiene la culpa...